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Mörkersikten och termiska sikten tillåts vid jakt på vildsvin

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8 hours ago lindgren sa:

Vi bumpar denna tråden. 
Atn har börjat falla i pris, men hur bra är dom ?( thor lt?)

Nattsikte ala budget verkar vara pard 007 och 008... klart intressanta, men vad säger ni som har dom, är dom prisvärda?
Personligen har jag insett att jag VILL ha termiskt, men fan inte betala för det...
Så jag väntar lite på att priset ska ner lite till.

Lite intresserad av pard 008. Men då dem återkalla dem så känns det sådär!?

Varit inne på att importera en pulsar trail xp50. Då den är betydligt dyrare här! Sjuk men dyr!

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Christian N

Atn har en historik av otroligt dåligt kund bemötande vid service och reklamationer, utöver det har funktionen hos produkterna varit synnerligen varierande, dvs från mycket bra till urkass även i samma produktlinje./C

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Droggot

Orsaken till att dom återkallade PARD var att dom hade för stark IR mot vad EU godkände har jag läst.

Så är det nån som har en som inte är åtgärdad så är jag intresserad. :thumbsup:

 

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lindgren
29 minutes ago, Droggot said:

Orsaken till att dom återkallade PARD var att dom hade för stark IR mot vad EU godkände har jag läst.

Så är det nån som har en som inte är åtgärdad så är jag intresserad. :thumbsup:

 

Läste på lite, det finns en se update som fixar det hela.. det innebär att man troligen kan lägga på den äldre sw och slippa fixen

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Maichel
1 hour ago lindgren sa:

Läste på lite, det finns en se update som fixar det hela.. det innebär att man troligen kan lägga på den äldre sw och slippa fixen

Man blir ju lite nyfiken på om denna FIX sänker prestanda på IR/ Laser. I så fall tänker nog inte jag "uppdatera"... Vore intressant att läsa på om fixen - du har inte hittat någon länk?

:blush:

/M

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lindgren
4 minutes ago, Maichel said:

Man blir ju lite nyfiken på om denna FIX sänker prestanda på IR/ Laser. I så fall tänker nog inte jag "uppdatera"... Vore intressant att läsa på om fixen - du har inte hittat någon länk?

:blush:

/M

https://www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk/blackwood-outdoors-articles/pard-nv008-updated-firmware-september

detta var en snabb googling, finns säkert massor av info på deras forum

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Christian N
2 hours ago Maichel sa:

Man blir ju lite nyfiken på om denna FIX sänker prestanda på IR/ Laser. I så fall tänker nog inte jag "uppdatera"... Vore intressant att läsa på om fixen - du har inte hittat någon länk?

:blush:

/M

Den nya firm ware begränsar effekten rejält, enligt källor på Skånejakt mfl. /C 

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redtop

Från en tråd på www.nightvisionforumuk.com

Den ligger bakom inloggning så man får ta den via Googles cache, men här klipper jag in texten.

 

Re: Pard safety concern - drewslab gunmart mag

Post by phoenix » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:47 pm

As always, there is a back story to this.
Drew of Drewslab is very close to some senior guys in Yukon/Pulsar. He built, and may still be building, bits of test equipment for Pulsar. So Pulsar is a customer of his and he also sells Yukon/Pulsar products
Thomas Jacks are the sole importers of Yukon/Pulsar products in the UK, and if you want to sell Yukon/Pulsar products you need a trade account with them
Thomas Jacks sales of digital NV kit e.g Photons and Digisights bombed when the PARD 007 and 008 came on the market and well, TJs were a bit pissed off.
TJs then discovered that the IR illuminator built into the PARDs exceeded the recommended class 3B laser power limit.
Note that this is a recommended limit, not a legal limit. In fact there is no legal limit on the power of any lasers that can be owned and used by members of the public.
The limit for a class3B laser is 500mw and the PARDs can put out somewhere between 700 and 1000mw, which makes them class 4.
However, you can go on the internet and buy a 2000W laser that is also class 4 and is perfectly legal to own and use.
TJs and Yukon/Pulsar have tried to use the fact that the PARD illuminator exceeds the recommended safety limit to spread the dirt about PARDs - telling everyone who will listen that the PARDs are unsafe and can blind you.
Drewslab (probably because of his close personal relationship with the Yukon/Pulsar people) is the only company selling PARD products who has announced this "safety concern" - all the other sellers are happily continuing to sell PARD products and the users are happily continuing to use their PARD products.
There have be no reports of anyone suffering eye damage or blindness from the PARD IR illuminator - and there won't be, because I have had my eye within an inch of the PARD IR illuminator at full power and tightly focussed.
After a second or so I felt the back of my eye heating up so I looked away. 2 weeks later I had my annual eye test, and there was no sign of any damage
This is pure scaremongering by TJs and Yukon/Pulsar because someone (PARD) has come along with a product that is far better and significantly cheaper than anything they sell.
You may have noticed that none of the shooting magazines have ever had a review of any of the PARD products.
The reason for this is that all the magazines have been warned by TJs that if there any articles about the PARDs appear, TJs will pull all their advertising.
Most shooting magazine are right on the edge of profitability and they simply can't afford to lose so much advertising revenue (and of course, TJs know this)
Tjs have also refused to be present at any Nightvision demo events if PARDs are also being demonstrated.
They will tell you it's because they don't want their employees blinded by the PARD IR - in fact it's because the PARDS will be shown to be better and cheaper than any comparable Yukon/Pulsar products
If you want to learn more about IR illuminators and safety, Russ Douglas and I recently made this series of 3 YouTube videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5-9L0lkMgc&t=25s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3V-U0f3fFo&t=37s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_AzCMa_g48&t=501s

Cheers

Bruce

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Maichel
1 hour ago Christian N sa:

Den nya firm ware begränsar effekten rejält, enligt källor på Skånejakt mfl. /C 

...alltså uppdaterar man inte sin enhet med ny mjukvara ^_^

/M

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calski
1 hour ago redtop sa:

Från en tråd på www.nightvisionforumuk.com

Den ligger bakom inloggning så man får ta den via Googles cache, men här klipper jag in texten.

 

Re: Pard safety concern - drewslab gunmart mag

Post by phoenix » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:47 pm

As always, there is a back story to this.
Drew of Drewslab is very close to some senior guys in Yukon/Pulsar. He built, and may still be building, bits of test equipment for Pulsar. So Pulsar is a customer of his and he also sells Yukon/Pulsar products
Thomas Jacks are the sole importers of Yukon/Pulsar products in the UK, and if you want to sell Yukon/Pulsar products you need a trade account with them
Thomas Jacks sales of digital NV kit e.g Photons and Digisights bombed when the PARD 007 and 008 came on the market and well, TJs were a bit pissed off.
TJs then discovered that the IR illuminator built into the PARDs exceeded the recommended class 3B laser power limit.
Note that this is a recommended limit, not a legal limit. In fact there is no legal limit on the power of any lasers that can be owned and used by members of the public.
The limit for a class3B laser is 500mw and the PARDs can put out somewhere between 700 and 1000mw, which makes them class 4.
However, you can go on the internet and buy a 2000W laser that is also class 4 and is perfectly legal to own and use.
TJs and Yukon/Pulsar have tried to use the fact that the PARD illuminator exceeds the recommended safety limit to spread the dirt about PARDs - telling everyone who will listen that the PARDs are unsafe and can blind you.
Drewslab (probably because of his close personal relationship with the Yukon/Pulsar people) is the only company selling PARD products who has announced this "safety concern" - all the other sellers are happily continuing to sell PARD products and the users are happily continuing to use their PARD products.
There have be no reports of anyone suffering eye damage or blindness from the PARD IR illuminator - and there won't be, because I have had my eye within an inch of the PARD IR illuminator at full power and tightly focussed.
After a second or so I felt the back of my eye heating up so I looked away. 2 weeks later I had my annual eye test, and there was no sign of any damage
This is pure scaremongering by TJs and Yukon/Pulsar because someone (PARD) has come along with a product that is far better and significantly cheaper than anything they sell.
You may have noticed that none of the shooting magazines have ever had a review of any of the PARD products.
The reason for this is that all the magazines have been warned by TJs that if there any articles about the PARDs appear, TJs will pull all their advertising.
Most shooting magazine are right on the edge of profitability and they simply can't afford to lose so much advertising revenue (and of course, TJs know this)
Tjs have also refused to be present at any Nightvision demo events if PARDs are also being demonstrated.
They will tell you it's because they don't want their employees blinded by the PARD IR - in fact it's because the PARDS will be shown to be better and cheaper than any comparable Yukon/Pulsar products
If you want to learn more about IR illuminators and safety, Russ Douglas and I recently made this series of 3 YouTube videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5-9L0lkMgc&t=25s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3V-U0f3fFo&t=37s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_AzCMa_g48&t=501s

Cheers

Bruce

Ingen aning om detta stämmer. Men om det gör det och man väljer att inte uppdater borde man komma ihåg att ir-laser är farligt för att du inte ser den. Och det som skrivs om att han stirrat in i den tills han kände ögat värmas upp utan skada är ren lögn. Man saknar känsel på näthinnan. Och då linsen fokuserar ljuset där så är det första man märker med laser utanför synligt ljus när man får ögonskador. Det sagt är nog lasern inte det faligaste som kommer ut fram på bössan.

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